/299/ Micropower & Transcendence in Brazil (Bungazão 2022) ft. Miguel Lago

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On reclaiming populism.
 
With only a couple of days to go until the decisive runoff between Lula and Bolsonaro, we continue our Bungazão 2022 series by talking to to political scientist Miguel Lago about how Lula and Bolsonaro both construct a Brazilian people. Lula does so broadly on class lines, while Bolsonaro’s construction is a moral one: “good citizens” and those to be excluded. 
 
Why is populism the right way to analyse the election, and how might Lula re-embody Brazil’s greatest populist leader, Getúlio Vargas? We discuss how Bolsonarismo works on the basis of ‘micropower’ – that is, it appeals to those who hold power over others in any walk of life.
 
And we conclude by looking at Bolsonaro’s combination of transcendence and transgression, and how it has re-politicised Brazilian society. Why is this recipe proving more successful than the transactional politics of old?
 
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